felt as though after september 11th the, the diversion, the distraction of the nation's concern and energy into iraq was unpardonable. and i felt that it was inept, corrupt and opaque. those were tough years for me, and i was very, very deeply motivated to, if 2008, to see barack obama, this wonderful sort of a surprise really. i couldn't believe our luck that we had gotten such a real person as, to make it through the filter system of our politics. so it meant a lot to me, and i know that it would have meant a huge amount to my father. so, because i think of him often. and so again in 2012 we, kim and i went on the road for obama. we did a, as theresa said earlier, we did about three dozen different events. it was really, restored my faith in the, in the country to see, um, to meet these people who had committed thimses to this re-election -- themselves to this re-election campaign. it was the largest grassroots event that we've ever seen in this country, and the people involved were such, just fundamentally such good people, i felt, that it really meant a lot to me to be involved in it.